https://anchor.fm/s/eef066f0/podcast/play/128720157/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-10-3%2F1c8c8048-ae5f-9889-0eca-dde25c338794.mp3 Wally Scott, Harry Ware and Harry Stanton describe this lower table clash